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[habazot]

Hi,

Just a writeup on the process of replacing the stock stereo with something a bit more up to date.

I opted to buy this one:
http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/annonse?finnkode=40200232&searchQuery=LG+DAB

Fair price and it had all the features I wanted (DAB, handsfree, bluetooth audio streaming from Android/iOS, ++)

- remove detachable front panel of original stereo
- gently remove black bezel surrounding the front panel
- insert the two special removal tools on each side of the unit (I did not have the original ones, but fortunately the ones shipped with the new stereo fitted and could be used)
- pull out the old stereo
- detach all cables
- remove the metal frame left in the dashboard (you will have to bend a few locking tags in the metal frame to get it out)

Ok, you are at ground zero. Now install the new cables to go with the new functionality:
- figure out where to place the DAB antenna (yes, you will need a separate antenna from the original FM antenna, it usually ships with the stereo). I put mine on the rear side window on the driver side to avoid having to look at it while driving..
I have also read that it should be not mounted behind the black window decor. Not sure if it should be mounted vertically or horizontally, I chose horizontally. Time will tell if that was a smart move... Ideally I would like to put it under the roof and out of sight, but not sure if that completely destroys reception, others might comment on this...
- remove the cover on the driver side front post by pulling it upwards. The existing cables (FM + potentially GSM/GPS should be exposed).
- glue the DAB antenna to the rear window (make sure to clean it first with a detergent)
- gently start inserting the DAB antenna cable with a screwdriver or other blunt instrument into mid beam cover (above the safety belt)
- continue inserting the cable under the roof cover by gently bending the rubber seal to get access
- when inserted it all the way to the front post gently pull the cable to straigthen it
- I chose to put the microphone to the handsfree at the top of the front post, attatch the mic where you want it to be located (I just temporarily fixed it to the rubber seal while doing the cables).
- the original cables were a bit all over the place so I chose to strap the two new wires (DAB + mic) together with the existing cables and taped them according to the cabling "slot" in the front post cover
- put the end of the cables into the same hole the other cables come out from under the dashboard
- put your arm under the dash and get hold of the cables and gently pull to remove any excess cables on top of the dash
- you can now put the post cover back in place again and make sure the mic is placed where you want it (I just put it in the squeeze between the post and roof covers)

Now to the fun part where you wish you had done some more yoga:
- to avoid any cables messing up the pedals, steering or other vital parts I chose to strap the cables to the existing wiring harness going from the side of the car into the slot where the stereo is supposed to go. This requires putting you head and hands where they do not belong; under the dash under the steering wheel...
- pull the cables gently out the car stereo slot when you finally have gotten them that far

You are almost done!
- put all the cables through the new metal frame to be inserted into the car stereo slot
- insert the metal frame and bend the matching tags to properly fix it
- attach all the cables to the new stereo (I needed a ISO to DIN FM antenna converter like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170654646966)
- tidy up the cables with straps
- slide the new stereo in
- mount the black bezel
- snap in the front
- test it!

I have attached some photos of the process, but not all of the steps...

There might be a follow-up as I plan to install some proper two-way 13cm speakers instead of the 10cm coffe filters currently mounted. I guess if you found the right 16.5cm speakers they could fit, but I wanted to keep the original covers for some reason..
Please post references to successful installs of decent speakers.

[elektrolux]

Nice info.

You mention Android? Will the screen display android programs? If so, it can be used as a BMS screen. 

[habazot]

Nice info.

You mention Android? Will the screen display android programs? If so, it can be used as a BMS screen.

Nah, sorry, it's quite simple in that respect. I did consider some of the 1DIN stereos with a 7" pop-out displays, but I did not find anything with HDMI and touch in my bugdet range..

Actually I did not discover the Th!ink built in handsfree system until after I instelled the LG one. Do all Thinks come with this? How do I control it? Can I turn it off?..

[hma]

Actually I did not discover the Th!ink built in handsfree system until after I instelled the LG one. Do all Thinks come with this? How do I control it? Can I turn it off?..

The built in handsfree is a part of the "assistance" function which is implemented on (most) 2008/2009-models with the Remote ACqusition unit (RAC). This involves additional microphone (behind the rear mirror), separate loadspeaker, and gsm/gps-antenna.

[habazot]

Actually I did not discover the Th!ink built in handsfree system until after I instelled the LG one. Do all Thinks come with this? How do I control it? Can I turn it off?..

The built in handsfree is a part of the "assistance" function which is implemented on (most) 2008/2009-models with the Remote ACqusition unit (RAC). This involves additional microphone (behind the rear mirror), separate loadspeaker, and gsm/gps-antenna.

Does anyone know what's "under the hood" in the RAC unit?
Does it have any known interfaces?
Can it be used in any sensible way?
Sounds like there was a good plan (CAN/GPS/GPRS/bluetooth/audio) but not properly completed/implemented.?..
Got me curious though, would have been a natural OVMS++ candidate...

[hma]

The RAC is this product:
http://www.eileo.com/

[haakon88t]

Thanks for a good writeup.

Are you happy with the functionality of the stereo? How is the quality of the bluetooth handsfree?
I think I will purchase one myself if you still are happy with it.

[commiesoft]

Thanks for a thorough writeup, might come in handy some day I bought this on ebay NKR 268,- the thingy to the right is an USB memory stick.. it plays memory sticks and sd cards.



The coolest little car stereo I have seen, and the green light matches some of the controls in the car

[habazot]

Thank you, the display beats mine

Although the ad on the LG part shows green leds one can only choose between red and blue, so no color matching on mine..

What can I say about the LG, it's ok, does everything I wanted it to do: Bluetooth audio streaming and handsfree phone, DAB, SD card, ++. Sound quality is fine, my speakers are a bit "underpowered", should have gotten something with a "larger magnet"
I added a Biltema subwoofer to get a bit more punch. It kind of works, allows me to get some odd looks from bystanders when parking and King Crimson "goes to 11"..

Have ordered a couple of 1.5" tweeters to have in front and a couple of 2.75" speakers to mount in the back.
So, it's all quite "on the cheap", do not ride long enough to invest in audio equipment more than the cars worth

It seems like it can only handle one bluetooth connection at a time, and I have to explicitly connect to it (was hoping it could just be automatic, could just be me fiddling with the wrong controls..). My RAC unit constantly requests pairing so I'm going to pull the plug on that one soon..

The controls are a bit fiddly as well, the user interface could have been improved.
Anyway, it's good enough to me right now, it'll do.

[hma]

It kind of works, allows me to get some odd looks from bystanders when parking and King Crimson "goes to 11"..

How cool! This made me dig into King Crimson this morning, started in -69 with "In the court of .." (which I also got on vinyle). Been thinking of running through the discography in chronological order for a while.

Can you tell a little more about you sub-installation? Where is is located, how did you patch +12V, etc?

I have replaced the original 4" speakers with Polk Audio DB401 http://bilradiospes.no/m/shop/?produkt=11867&katid=643&id=
They perform way better than the original, but still I base/low-range is poor.

[habazot]

It kind of works, allows me to get some odd looks from bystanders when parking and King Crimson "goes to 11"..

How cool! This made me dig into King Crimson this morning, started in -69 with "In the court of .." (which I also got on vinyle). Been thinking of running through the discography in chronological order for a while.

Can you tell a little more about you sub-installation? Where is is located, how did you patch +12V, etc?

Right now it is on the floor on the passenger side...
My plan it to mount it up under the foot-well on passenger side, hanging under the relays.
Not sure it will fit properly, time will show.
I ended removing a bit of insulation on the main power line going to the relay box and soldering the +12V supply to that (it has a separate fuse). Maybe not the most sexy way of doing it, but I did not want to weaken the mains line in any way and at the same time have a short wire.
Ground it put on one of the mounting bolts on the passenger side seat.

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