FSD som "plaster på såret"?

[boxer72]

Sjekk ut versjon av software med OBD2 og CanZE. Software i LBC og LBC2
Før oppdatering og etter oppdatering hos meg. Kommer tydelig frem ny versjon

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[Måkemannen]

Sjekk ut versjon av software med OBD2 og CanZE. Software i LBC og LBC2
Før oppdatering og etter oppdatering hos meg. Kommer tydelig frem ny versjon

Tusen takk!

Det viser seg at jeg har den gamle versjonen (0751). Så enten løy forhandleren for meg, eller så aner de ikke hva de holder på med. Ganske skuffet over dem nå ja! ((

[bjaolsen]

Ser at på min Q210 er det bare LBC1 som er oppdatert, virker likevel bra.

[minibiti]

Sjekk ut versjon av software med OBD2 og CanZE. Software i LBC og LBC2
Før oppdatering og etter oppdatering hos meg. Kommer tydelig frem ny versjon

Boxer72: Do you have a Q210, a R240 or a R90?

Mine is a R240 and it just went trough the first service.
I asked them to update all the software but I still have version 0751 for LBC.
The guy showed me that there is no more updates available for my car.
Is he talking about something else?

[minibiti]

All erfaring ifra andre Zoe eiere (mye diskusjon rundt dette tyske elbil forumet). Skulle tilsi at du får igjen endel ved oppdatering av  software.  Den software som antagelig ligger inne tror batteriet er dårligere enn det virkelig er og du vil få igjen 1-1,5 kW kapasitet etter oppdatering

One more question:
This missing 1-1.5 kWh of capacity with the older firmware is only affecting the guess-o-meter isn't it?
I can still use the full battery capacity if I keep on driving right?

Thanks!

[boxer72]

All erfaring ifra andre Zoe eiere (mye diskusjon rundt dette tyske elbil forumet). Skulle tilsi at du får igjen endel ved oppdatering av  software.  Den software som antagelig ligger inne tror batteriet er dårligere enn det virkelig er og du vil få igjen 1-1,5 kW kapasitet etter oppdatering

One more question:
This missing 1-1.5 kWh of capacity with the older firmware is only affecting the guess-o-meter isn't it?
I can still use the full battery capacity if I keep on driving right?

Thanks!

I have a R240, have talked to people who have got newer software than I got when I updated. So if the workshop claims it's not new, they do not know what they're up to. Canze tells us that the capacity is less than it is in reality. And it retrieves the information from the computer. So  I think You​ have  reduced capacity until you have new software

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[minibiti]

All erfaring ifra andre Zoe eiere (mye diskusjon rundt dette tyske elbil forumet). Skulle tilsi at du får igjen endel ved oppdatering av  software.  Den software som antagelig ligger inne tror batteriet er dårligere enn det virkelig er og du vil få igjen 1-1,5 kW kapasitet etter oppdatering

One more question:
This missing 1-1.5 kWh of capacity with the older firmware is only affecting the guess-o-meter isn't it?
I can still use the full battery capacity if I keep on driving right?

Thanks!

I have a R240, have talked to people who have got newer software than I got when I updated. So if the workshop claims it's not new, they do not know what they're up to. Canze tells us that the capacity is less than it is in reality. And it retrieves the information from the computer. So  I think You​ have  reduced capacity until you have new software

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I just checked with CanZE and the full capacity of my battery pack, seen from the on board computer, is 23 kWh.
So I guess it does see the whole capacity no?

According to this (http://insideevs.com/renault-zoe-r240-battery-capacity-23-3-kwh-usable-25-92-kwh-total/), the total available capacity is 22 kWh for the Q210 and is 23.3 kWh for the R240.

[boxer72]

All erfaring ifra andre Zoe eiere (mye diskusjon rundt dette tyske elbil forumet). Skulle tilsi at du får igjen endel ved oppdatering av  software.  Den software som antagelig ligger inne tror batteriet er dårligere enn det virkelig er og du vil få igjen 1-1,5 kW kapasitet etter oppdatering

One more question:
This missing 1-1.5 kWh of capacity with the older firmware is only affecting the guess-o-meter isn't it?
I can still use the full battery capacity if I keep on driving right?

Thanks!

I have a R240, have talked to people who have got newer software than I got when I updated. So if the workshop claims it's not new, they do not know what they're up to. Canze tells us that the capacity is less than it is in reality. And it retrieves the information from the computer. So  I think You​ have  reduced capacity until you have new software

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I just checked with CanZE and the full capacity of my battery pack, seen from the on board computer, is 23 kWh.
So I guess it does see the whole capacity no?

According to this (http://insideevs.com/renault-zoe-r240-battery-capacity-23-3-kwh-usable-25-92-kwh-total/), the total available capacity is 22 kWh for the Q210 and is 23.3 kWh for the R240.

What do CanZe show about  SOH on You battery? And how many km have the battery/car go

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[minibiti]

SOH: 99%
KM: 12000

[boxer72]

SOH: 99%
KM: 12000

No point to worry when you reach 40000-45000 SOH will be 93-94%. Then you can go to the workshop

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[minibiti]

I actually checked again just now and I now have a SOH of 94% and it looks like the max capacity is now 21.8 kWh
Do you think this is enough to get them to update the firmware on the guarantee?

[boxer72]

I actually checked again just now and I now have a SOH of 94% and it looks like the max capacity is now 21.8 kWh
Do you think this is enough to get them to update the firmware on the guarantee?

That should be enough, tell them to update BMS software (battery monitoring system). If they refuse, be hard!  Tell them about this forum and You know for sure this is a software problem that can be solve fast with a update

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[minibiti]

So I went to Motor Forum and asked them to update the BMS...
But what I did not think of/understand is that this is work that has to be taken under the warranty and hence must be approved by Renault Norway first.
Indeed, the work MF does is paid by RBI.
So MF created a case and I am now waiting for the RBI feedback...

I understand that it takes time to update the firmware on the car and that time is money, but it sounds crazy to me that Renault does not have a way of updating this mostly automatically during the yearly service. Then everyone would be happy.
Firmware updates are as important for cars nowadays than they are for computers!
And what is an electric car if not a computer on top of a big battery with wheels! 
Especially when there are such teething problems during the first few years which impact the most important thing on an electric car, i.e range.

Do other car brands handle this better (except Tesla and its OTA updates of course  ).

[jkirkebo]

Do other car brands handle this better (except Tesla and its OTA updates of course  ).

Volvo does, they update the cars as part of the yearly service. But they do not sell EVs

[boxer72]

Do other car brands handle this better (except Tesla and its OTA updates of course  ).

Volvo does, they update the cars as part of the yearly service. But they do not sell EVs

Don't think this have anything to do with brand, this is just you dealership that make a problem of this.
Was no problem when I Ask my dealer to update this. He told med that it took some time. But he start the update prosess and then he could do something else when the computer work.

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