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Startet av HelectriC, torsdag 21. mai 2015, klokken 11:57

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HelectriC

På Tesla Club Sweden ligger det ute en tekst skrevet av en entusiastisk elbileier og den er bare "the bomb", lo godt når jeg leste. Sånn er verden for oss elbilførere:-)

http://teslaclubsweden.se/provkorning-av-bensinbil/
Model S 75D -2017
eGolf 300 -2019
Hyundai Kona Electric -2019 (solgt)
Model S 85 -2015 (solgt)
eGolf 190 -2015 (solgt)
Jaguar I-Pace -2019 (solgt)

Sjøhyene

Spot on :)
Håper noen kan oversette den til engelsk
Tesla model X 90D - 2017 (kjøpt 2019)
Hyundai Ioniq - 2016 (kjøpt 2018)

Tesla model S 85 - 2014 (solgt 2019)

B_Tesla

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Quaoar


mandresen

Utrolig!!
Traff spikeren på hode der gitt.
Melhus (Trondheim)
Tesla Model S85D, MC Red, RN336744, levert 26.05.15
Nissan Leaf 2012 modell, White Pearl
Mitsubishi i-Miev 2011 modell, Titanium Grey m/eberspacher (SOLGT)

B_Tesla

#5
Har ikke noe sted å laste det opp, men her er et raskt forsøk. Utgangspunkt er Google Translat, etterfulgt av at jeg har gått over. Forslag til forbedring mottas med takk. Gjort noen små omskrivninger.

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Petrol car test drive


Having heard so much good about petrol cars, we decided to test drive one.  They are said to combine cheap price with long range and fast charging.  A winning formula on paper - but how are they in real life?

We sat in the loaner car at the car salesman.  Automakers does not sell the cars themselves, but it is independent chains of dealers that are middleman and sell the cars.  They are called car dealers. It may sound like a bad omen to buy the car from a car dealer that you are keen to visit as often as possible.  But you obviously can not buy the car directly from the manufacturer, but must go through such intermediaries.  The seller was very "pushing" and wished that we should by car immediately, but the response is perhaps better elsewhere.

We sat in the car as I said, pressing START.  The car's gasoline engine coughed, and then started running.  One could hear the engine sound and the whole body vibrated as if something had broken, but the seller assured us that everything was as it should.  The car had admittedly an electric motor and a microscopically small battery, but they are only used to start the petrol engine - the electric motor does not drive the wheels.  The petrol engine then uses a tank full of gasoline, a fossil liquid, to propel the car by exploding small drops of it.  It is apparently the small explosions that you hear and feel when the engine is running.

The petrol engine consists of literally hundreds of moving parts that must have a tolerance of hundredths of a millimeter to function.  We begin to understand why there are shops that sell the cars - they might hope for something breaking in the car, so they can fix it?

We put the car in gear and drove off with a jerk.  The jerk came not because of any extreme acceleration,  gasoline engines apparently are much more jerky than electric motors.  A rapid acceleration did not occur at all, because we could not get the car to go faster than 40 km/h!  By then the petrol engine made a literally deafening sound, and the whole car shook violently.  Convinced that something must have gone wrong, we stopped the car.  The seller then explained that the gasoline engine must be "toggled" on a regular basis.  Between the engine and the wheels there is not a fixed ratio, but a variable - not dynamic, but in steps. The motor can power only in a limited speed range, and must therefore be switched using different ratios for the wheels to continue to accelerate.  There are 5 different rations we can choose with increasing speed as a result.  It is - as we got to find out - also very important that you at any given moment select a suitable gear, otherwise the engine will either stall or even get seriously damaged!  After a lot of training however, I got used to selecting the right ratio at the right time - and there are also automatic switches that can do things themselves.  In the manual transmission car, we were always needed to guard the engine from damage.  Very stressful indeed.

We asked if the constant sound of the engine – which frankly disturbed the sound picture from the radio. Was possible to turn off.  But it was not actually.  Very distracting.

After getting the car up to speed through the intricate changing of ratios we approached then a traffic light.  To release the gas produced no significant braking power, we had to use the brake pedal very much to slow down the car.  Surprised we heard that the brakes are completely mechanical!  The only thing they generate is heat - braking gives no feedback of gasoline into the tank!  Sounds like a huge waste, but it was even worse would we find out.

When we got to a complete stop the car continued to shake and make noise - even though the car was standing still!  The engine continued to burn gasoline without moving the car forward.  Can it really be true?  Well, explained the seller, it is so with gasoline cars the engine is always running and burning gasoline even when the car is stationary.  Some models, however, turns off the engine at a red light, he explained - certainly sounds more sensible.

After a while we came to a gas station where we could charge the car.  The car claimed that it still had half tank left, but we wanted to try the famous super-fast charging of petrol cars!

So we drove to the gas station and opened the fuel cap.  The filling nozzle is very reminiscent of a charging cable, but it is not electrons that come out of it, it is gasoline.  Gasoline is a highly carcinogenic, smelly and flammable liquid derived from millions of years ago extinct plants and animals.  Some countries has no mining of this material, so gasoline must be imported from other countries.  Several of the countries that export fossil oil and gasoline are politically very unstable.  The gasoline is pumped to a tank in the car, which then drive around with about 60 liters of hazardous liquid sloshing in it.

We put the nozzle of the hose in to the car, but nothing happened.  The seller then explained that we must pay to refuel!  Much like some of those extremely expensive fast chargers that some utility companies have set up.  After we pulled the credit card in the reader, it started to refuel.  It went extremely fast!  In only a few minutes the car was filled to the max!  But there were two counters at the pump: one that showed the number of volumes we refueled, and one that showed how much it cost us.  And the cost counter was spinning so fast that we could hardly keep up with the pace!  Sure we filled the tank full in two minutes, but it cost us an unbelievable 75 dollars!  A full charge would thus cost us double that - the whole 15 dollars!  We cursed us that we apparently chose one of the most expensive sugar places in the country and began to ask the seller after what options there are?  How much does it cost to fill up at home, and how many free sites are there?

The seller looked very strange to us and explained that it is not possible to refuel gasoline cars at home, and there are no free gas stations.  We tried to explain our question if he had misunderstood, but he insisted that it can not.  Apparently you have to several times a month to go to the gas station to recharge their petrol car at extortionate prices - there is no alternative! We thought it sounded very strange that no gasoline car manufacturers launched their own free gas stations?

There are no gas stations where you can fill up slowly at cheaper price.  We started counting on petrol versus gasoline consumption and came to the shocking conclusion that a petrol costs unimaginable $20/100km!  Sure, electric cars also come up to these amounts if it charges very quickly in one of the most expensive loading stations in the country - but for petrol cars no cheaper alternative!  While charging the electric car comfortably at home every night for one tenth of the cost, petrol car must ride detours several times a month to search for these extortionate - without exception!  Monthly cost for a petrol car can - just in petrol cost - easily exceed one 100 dollars! We begin to understand why they are so cheap to purchase - the operation's extremely expensive instead.

We also began to understand why there should be so extremely many petrol stations everywhere, on all petrol motorists always have to go to them to refuel.  Imagine if you could only charge your electric car just by the power companies, the most expensive fast chargers - and nowhere else!

With this in mind, we ended up in a traffic jam and was horrified that the gasoline engine continued to burn these expensive gasoline drops even when the car was standing still or moving very slowly.  With gasoline vehicles, it is easy to run into cost-anxiety - the feeling that the car literally burn up your money!  No cheap home charging and no regeneration of gasoline to the fuel tank when braking sounds like economic madness - especially given that all gasoline must be imported from abroad.

We returned the car to the dealer's premises, pulled the handbrake and step out of the car.  The petrol engine continued to run!  One must evidently manually switch off the combustion of the precious liquid.  But we wanted to see the petrol engine, so the seller opened the bonnet.  The entire front portion of the car was completely cluttered with hoses, fittings, fluid, and amid all a huge shaking iron blocks that formed apparently the motor frame.  There was not even a shred of trunk forward in the car!  Despite its enormous size, high noise and vibration, the engine barely provide over a hundred horsepower.  The engine was additionally sizzling hot, we even burned ourselves on it when we touched it.  Although it was a summer hot day, so the engine did not generate heat to heat the passenger compartment.

Speaking of the cabin, we were worried about what would happen if it collided with petrol car?  Cast iron block that occupied most of the engine compartment was sitting in the middle of the collision zone!  Where would it go if we collided - one would get it in your lap?  The salesman assured us that the engine in that case folds down under the car but we could not escape the impression that the engine block was very much in the way at the front - safety beams were built around it, which of course certainly impair their functionality.  By avoiding that one hundred kilograms heavy iron lump in the front of the car, it must be much easier to build crashworthy cars.  Additionally, we have heard and seen on the Internet hundreds of pictures and movies on burning gasoline cars.  The petrol tank runs apparently often leak after an accident so the flammable liquid flows out and ignites!

From the engine and under the car towards the rear an exhaust system is running - a kind of chimney for engine exhaust.  When you burn the carcinogenic gasoline, it produces a lot of noxious gases.  The car clears away the worst of the most dangerous gases, but which is then released into the open air behind the car, it is still unhealthy to breathe - and smells very bad!  And petrol cars are allowed to emit these harmful gases in the midst of our cities?  Do not confuse petrol cars' exhaust pipes with fuel cell cars - while hydrogen powered fuel cell vehicles emit only water vapor, spewing gasoline cars out noxious gasses even fossil carbon dioxide that contribute to Earth's future catastrophic global warming!

We thanked the seller for the display, shook his head and returned the ignition key back (yes, it's called that) to him.  He probably realized that there would not be any business in this case.

On the way home in our electric, I saw with completely different eyes on my fellow commuters, who still have to put up with their gasoline cars.  But soon it is also their turn to trade up!


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brynjar

Har lest en helt lik artikkel på engelsk for et drøyt år siden. Den svenske versjonen er nok en oversettelse fra engelsk. Kanskje best å søke opp den engelske originalen?
Lykkelig eier av Tesla Model S P 85. Sort med beige interiør. Panotak. Lys-, lyd-, vinter- og techpakke. 8 års serviceavtale.

B_Tesla

Skal godt gjøres å finne den. Søke på Petrol car test drive gir deg et problem:) Ca 5,7 mil treff på google.
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Amoss

Sitat fra: brynjar på onsdag 22. april 2015, klokken 12:40
Har lest en helt lik artikkel på engelsk for et drøyt år siden. Den svenske versjonen er nok en oversettelse fra engelsk. Kanskje best å søke opp den engelske originalen?

Tror nok også dette ja - ikke minst er vel problemstillingen mellom forhandlere og egne utsalg en spesiell NA problemstilling?
"Your Model 3 was reserved on 31/03/2016."
ReservationId 364902

HelectriC

Sitat fra: brynjar på onsdag 22. april 2015, klokken 12:40
Har lest en helt lik artikkel på engelsk for et drøyt år siden. Den svenske versjonen er nok en oversettelse fra engelsk. Kanskje best å søke opp den engelske originalen?

vil mene det er Tibor på Tesla Club Sweden som har skrevet denne tekst, tror ikke den er kopi av noe engelsk gammel tekst.
Model S 75D -2017
eGolf 300 -2019
Hyundai Kona Electric -2019 (solgt)
Model S 85 -2015 (solgt)
eGolf 190 -2015 (solgt)
Jaguar I-Pace -2019 (solgt)

B_Tesla

Måtte modifisere litt engelske svenske greier ("våre naboer Norge" osv), så da har han I hvertall skrevet den om. Uansett er det en fantastisk tekst.
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Tuxedo

#11
Og da linket selveste Elon Musk til denne via Twitter:

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/595208771716059136

PS: Og det tok ned serveren deres... ;D
P85, Sølv.
Mottatt 25.11.13

cra

Tesla Model S75D 30/6/17
Tesla Model S85 26/3/14-30/6-17, 82500km
Leaf 9/5/12
Think City, Har ACTIA diagnoseapparat.
Sykkylven (Sunnmøre)

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