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#1
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 13:00
Sitat fra: morpheos på onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 12:23
Sitat fra: SupaJay på onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 10:57

So because they are the only option that makes it OK? and you shouldn't complain?

Of course not - that's one of the ways companies can learn and improve. The problem here is twofold; partly it's a problem of communication. If your delivery/logistics process isn't predictable, don't provide estimates to your customers. Tesla's problem in this case is that when you communicate an estimate, you create an expectation that it will be met.

If you say to Customer A that "we don't know when your car will be ready for delivery, but we'll provide you with regular status updates as the car moves through the system", most people would accept that. Things happen, it's a long and complex chain of systems and logistics.

If you instead (like Tesla does) say to Customer B that "We estimate that your car will be delivered in late august, early september" then you create an expectation that this date range will be met. If you provide wildly inaccurate information during the process (aka. MyTesla), this creates frustration. If you communicate that the car will be ready for delivery on a specific date (in my case, August 19th) and then proceed to miss the target date by a month, you're even worse off.

Let's say that Customer A and B both receive their cars on September 15th. Customer A was informed when his car rolled off production assembly, when it was shipped from CA, when it was offloaded in Belgium and when the car arrived in Drammen. He's a happy customer. Sure, he'd like to have gotten the car earlier, but his expectations were managed throughout the process. Up front, he was made aware that there are uncertanties, and once information was available, he got it. Customer B is going to be frustrated, pissed when he takes delivery and all because his expectations weren't met. He's had inaccurate information or no information at all. Both customers get their cars at the same time - their views are wildly different. This isn't hard - nothing of Customer As journey require any improvement on the logistics process.

The second part of the problem ties in with the first. When you do a stunt like the interest campaign has been, you're bound to overload your logistics process. Guess what, most customers will accept this IF THEY ARE TOLD SO.

Then again - I estimate that maybe 5-10% of Teslas customers are so into the cars that they will check MarineTraffic and MyTesla ten times daily ;)

This I 100% agree with. The length of the delivery duration is not the issue, its the lack of information and Tesla missing their own estimates and still not providing any information.

Tesla will not be able to hold onto customers with the model 3 if they don't improve their customer service level
#2
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 10:57
Sitat fra: tsla_eppen på onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 10:33
Sitat fra: SupaJay på onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 10:04
My view is that too many tesla lovers on this forum are too generous to Tesla. They sell cars and give estimates for delivery. The customer then has expectation that these estimates are realistic and that if they are not going to meet their estimated dates that they should be contacting the customer in advance to explain and provide reasoning on why and how they are going to fix the problem?

So i'm not sure why so many people on this forum defend Tesla's logistics and try and make excuses for these types of delays?

How would your boss view your performance if you told him you would finish a report by a certain date and then that date just came and went without any update form you? And then that it kept happening? I don't think you would be employed for very much longer after the 3rd time this happened.
Well, that analogy would only be correct if the employee was the only preferred employee , and the boss could not go to anyone else to get his reports delivered.
That is the reason we as customers can only accept the actual situation, we have no alternatives, tesla has no real competition in the marked for the model x and S. If BMW X7 , 7 serier and Mercedes , Volvo had their comparable alternatives (including charging) the situation would be COMPLETELY different.
We as customers can only threat With either Cancelling (no problem, enough customers that but cancelled cars) or bad review (no newspaper care, Shady delivery prosess is not interesting Reading imho).

So because they are the only option that makes it OK? and you shouldn't complain?
#3
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 10:04
My view is that too many tesla lovers on this forum are too generous to Tesla. They sell cars and give estimates for delivery. The customer then has expectation that these estimates are realistic and that if they are not going to meet their estimated dates that they should be contacting the customer in advance to explain and provide reasoning on why and how they are going to fix the problem?

So i'm not sure why so many people on this forum defend Tesla's logistics and try and make excuses for these types of delays?

How would your boss view your performance if you told him you would finish a report by a certain date and then that date just came and went without any update form you? And then that it kept happening? I don't think you would be employed for very much longer after the 3rd time this happened.
#4
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 08:40
Sitat fra: ChrML på onsdag 13. september 2017, klokken 07:00
Chill out og vent til bilen kommer. Om bilen ble bestilt i slutten av mai/juni og dukker opp i starten av oktober, er ikke det så unormalt for Tesla (3 mnd). Selvfølgelig dumt om selgeren har lovet for mye, men den kommer uansett :)

I think the mathematics here is a little off, ordering at the end of may would mean end of august is 3 months. I am in the same situation confirmed 26 May, so I agree with Shaft and Rolf in that the issue isnt with how long it takes for production its that our cars have been finished end june beginning July and have not been transported. This has nothing to do with production schedules and everything to do with ridiculously bad logistics. Mine took 6 week to get from Fremont to Baltimore and then say another month sat waiting on the dock in baltimore before being put on a boat to Zeebruge. And this is the problem people having ordered in Junly and have taken delivery already!

If you orderedmobile phone from Expert and they told you it would take 1 month and then it takes 3 would you be happy? Would you just say "all is ok I will get my phone when I get it"?

There needs to be accountability and how will they improve if you are too naive to complain?
#5
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
lørdag 09. september 2017, klokken 13:15
Sitat fra: mhtofte på lørdag 09. september 2017, klokken 13:12
Min er bekreftet 29.5, og er enten på båt eller nettopp ankomt Belgia. Så imponerende at biler bestilt i juli ligger foran min i køen


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Have you complained to the store manager?
I have heard they can offer a loaner if you need it.
FYI i am also in the same situation, confirmed 26.05 and still nothing and not even a comfirmed delivery date.
#6
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
tirsdag 05. september 2017, klokken 13:50
Sitat fra: Belloq på mandag 04. september 2017, klokken 17:45
Sitat fra: SupaJay på mandag 04. september 2017, klokken 14:41
anyone who has hits on UECC since talisman arrived in Zeebrugge on 01.09?

Cant see the talisman on the uecc vesseltracking ? am i blind or has it disappeared

Talisman is a wilhelmsen boat not UECC. you can only track the UECC listed boats on the UECC tracking,so only the boats between Zeebruge and Drammen and not between US and Zeebruge
#7
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
tirsdag 05. september 2017, klokken 13:49
Sitat fra: fonberg på tirsdag 05. september 2017, klokken 13:03
Noen her som tar ut bil i Trondheim i disse dager? Får dere bil på avtalt dato, eller forsinket, og i så fall hvor mye? Jeg opplever forsinkelse...

when did you confirm your order? have you been given a delivery estimate yet?
#8
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
mandag 04. september 2017, klokken 14:41
anyone who has hits on UECC since talisman arrived in Zeebrugge on 01.09?
#9
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
fredag 01. september 2017, klokken 12:46
Sitat fra: MrAxxon på fredag 01. september 2017, klokken 11:45
Sitat fra: ModelXoslo på fredag 01. september 2017, klokken 11:14
Noen flere som har fått negative endringer?

For 2 dager siden sto det hos meg at forventet levering var 14-28 september.

I dag har den endret seg til september - Early october.

Kjenner at jeg blir lei når bilen er solgt og jeg trenger den nye på plass så fort som mulig!

Jepp, fått samme endring

Well i confirmed on 26.05 and still don't have a confirmed date for delivery or even an update about whether its now in belgium.
#10
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
torsdag 24. august 2017, klokken 13:19
Sitat fra: MrAxxon på torsdag 24. august 2017, klokken 13:16
Sitat fra: SupaJay på torsdag 24. august 2017, klokken 12:54
anyone know what happens with the 0.25% interest rate campaign? I see this is now finished so do we still get this rate if we had ordered the car when it was still ongoing? Will not be happy if they say I have to pay higher interest rate because they take long to deliver

Everyone who ordered when the campaign interest was active will get that.

:+1:
#11
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
torsdag 24. august 2017, klokken 12:54
anyone know what happens with the 0.25% interest rate campaign? I see this is now finished so do we still get this rate if we had ordered the car when it was still ongoing? Will not be happy if they say I have to pay higher interest rate because they take long to deliver
#12
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
torsdag 24. august 2017, klokken 12:51
Sitat fra: MrAxxon på torsdag 24. august 2017, klokken 12:33
Da har My Tesla endret status fra sent August/September til 19 sept- 3 okt. Ser ut til at min S75d da er ombord Talisman som har ankomst Zeebrugge 1 sept. Jeg bekreftet min 28 juni.

what is your VIN, i have a screen shot from a friend at Wilhelmsen of some of the manifest from the Talisman (not all of it, but about 20 that i can see)
#13
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
torsdag 24. august 2017, klokken 10:13
Ah Tesla, such a wonderful company, happily told me now again that the car has not been loaded (week 5 now waiting at Baltimore port) and now car will only be delivered in October (after confirming 26.05). Surely this is now unreasonable???
#14
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
torsdag 24. august 2017, klokken 08:09
Sitat fra: 1000kwh på onsdag 23. august 2017, klokken 20:56
Sitat fra: SupaJay på onsdag 23. august 2017, klokken 20:44
Now the Talisman has left from Baltimore so now i can get a new excuse from Tesla tomorrow about why my car is still not loaded. I'm thinking that if the car is not on this boat then I need to contact some form of management at Tesla in Norway to get some action on this. 4 weeks standing in Baltimore port and still not loaded seems like someone should be fired. Especially since there are now cars ordered long after mine already delivered in Drammen. #F$%KINGTESLA
Høres ut som om du bør slappe av og stresse mindre ;) har de ikke ut september på å levere bilen din i forhold til estimatet?

This is why I am not relaxed, because originally told July, then changed to August now changed to September >:(
#15
Bestilling og levering / Sv: Levering august - september 2017
onsdag 23. august 2017, klokken 20:44
Now the Talisman has left from Baltimore so now i can get a new excuse from Tesla tomorrow about why my car is still not loaded. I'm thinking that if the car is not on this boat then I need to contact some form of management at Tesla in Norway to get some action on this. 4 weeks standing in Baltimore port and still not loaded seems like someone should be fired. Especially since there are now cars ordered long after mine already delivered in Drammen. #F$%KINGTESLA
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